Monday, 26 May 2025

Speaking is listening? (Is it?)

In a 'Word of Mouth' coming up on Radio 4, I'll be talking to Dr Haru Yamada about her book 'Kiku, the Japanese art of good listening'. I hope you listen to it.


The book and my conversation with Dr Yamada has got me thinking about how we talk about 'conversation', how we describe it, how we define it. The usual way we do this is to talk about two or more people talking to each other, exchanging what they think, feel, want etc. We might talk about it as 'communication' - two people actually or trying to exchange what we feel about each other, how we exchange ideas or how we might discuss something in order to resolve a problem, or to plan something. 


All these descriptions are about what we say and how we say it. There's a field of study called 'pragmatics' which is about the methods we use when we converse - taking turns, interrupting each other, 'chaining' thoughts, and strategies we use to get others to listen to us and so on. Some of pragmatics looks at the kinds of signals we give off as listeners to indicate to a speaker that we are (or are not) listening (nodding, saying 'mm' etc). 


In fact, it we think about it (and I admit I mostly haven't!), half of conversation must logically be about listening. But what does it mean 'to listen'? How do we do it? What goes on, when we listen while we're in a conversation?


A lot of my thoughts in the area of language are to do with education. The present emphasis in education towards language is that it's a 'structure' and that it has 'content' than can be unloaded as if you were taking eggs out of an eggbox - finite chucks of 'stuff' that are 'in' the text that it's your job to 'get out' of the text - whether that's a written text (like a book), or speech (eg with a talk or lecture from a teacher or tutor) or in a  conversation. 


These models of 'structure' and 'content' are very mechanical models of how humans interact and give little room for the ideas that suggest, firstly, that the 'structures' are flexible (change over time and place) and that they depend on the 'dynamics' of who's speaking and who's listening. Secondly, the idea that language interaction is just unloading and loading, leaves out the complexity of how as humans we make things meaningful. So if you say to me, 'The station is at the end of the road', I have to bring to bear on that sentence a host of previous understandings in order to make sense of it, and I have to use contexts in order to   make meaning too. To take one word from that sentence: 'station', it's a word that can mean a lot of things, when taken away from its contexts, but in context, I'll take it to most likely mean one thing in particular. 


So, straightaway, I've built into 'listening' ideas to do with the flexibility and variability of language along with the listener's experience and knowledge. Some have probed that aspect of 'experience' and say that experience is full of 'schema' that we build up in our minds from the day we're born (if not from earlier in the womb). What are 'schema'? Patterns and conventions such that our minds are full of expectations as to what is being said to us and how it is being said. As I've just mentioned, the word 'station' has a network in our minds to do with bus-stations, railway stations, work stations, Playstations and so on. 


There's a big new interest in education on 'oracy'. Some of this focusses on how we speak, how we can learn 'dialogically' ie through talk. There is a vast literature going back thousands of years on how we speak. Speaking is a very visible aspect of human behaviour. But speaking is predicated on the fact that (most of the time) we assume when we speak that someone is listening. And if we don't assume it, we hope they're listening, and even if we don't hope that, we carry on talking as if they're listening. One way of putting that is that we 'inscribe' the listener into how we speak. Our expectations about the listener are embedded in our choices we make about the accent we use, the dialect we use, the terminology we use, the sentence structures we use (syntax), the topics we use and even the 'genre' we're in eg joke-telling, advice-giving, commands and so on.  This description of speaking 'thickens' or 'deepens' the idea of what it means to speak. We don't really have a word for this. It's something like 'speaking-with-an-awareness-of-who-I-am-speaking-to-such-that-it-affects-how-I-speak-and-what-I'm-speaking-about'. 


In everyday encounters we are acutely aware of this: 'Don't talk down to me like that!' 'Don't patronise me!' 'Don't call me "dear", I'm not your dear!' and so on. So I'm wondering what would happen in education if we talked more about what is listening and what role listening plays in conversation. There is of course a very passive way of talking about listening, which is the 'jug and mug' theory of education! The teacher is the full jug and the pupil is the empty mug. The teacher pours the full jug into the pupil's empty mug. As adults, we have all said to our children and young people, 'Listen!'... meaning what exactly? That if the child looks at us, and is quiet that something important is going to be conveyed from us to them? But will it? Will I frame what I am saying in such a way that the 'schema' in the child's mind will be able to make meaning of it? And even if that's theoretically possible, what if the child is thinking about any number of other things to do with their emotional and social needs which appear at that moment to be more important than what it is that I want to say, some of which (much of which?) might be to do with what that child thinks of me! 


Another complication: how do we know how the other person is listening? Mostly from what they say. But what they say is affected by who they think they're talking to and what the person they're talking back to has just said. Karl Marx once wrote that even the educator is educated. It's generally thought that what he meant by that was that even as we take actions, we're affected by the actions being taken towards us. We shape the world, yet we are shaped by the world. In conversations, we shape the conversation, yet we are shaped by it. This can only happen if we factor in listening into what we mean by speaking. Perhaps I could formulate that as 'we speak with how we listen'.

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Saturday, 17 May 2025

Why language is not 'words'.

 If anyone says 'language is words' or anything to that effect, particularly in the field of education, especially Early Years education, then this is not helpful and not true. Language is made up of sequences of words, whether that's within one piece of writing, one piece of spoken language or in a conversation.


Then, going with this false statement about 'words', there is often a statement about language being about 'communication'. This too is false. A lot of the ways in which we use language is not about transferring one slab of meaning to another person and that this meaning can be gleaned from the 'meaning' in the bit of writing or speech. Quite often we interact through suggestion and through implication. We use irony, ellipsis (shortening), incomplete utterances, in order to convey meanings sometimes meaning the opposite of what the language appears to be 'saying'. (one tiny example, 'Yeah right' which can mean, Yes, right. Or the opposite).

But to reduce it to 'communication' is a false representation too. Another way of thinking about language is to think about why we have it. What does the use of language do for us? People have suggested that the answer to this question is largely in thinking of us as 'relational' beings. We use language in order to make, keep, harm, affect or even destroy relations between us. We have 1000s of ways of doing this: commanding, coaxing, pleading, rejecting, persuading, deceiving - and you can think of many more. These may be about 'communicating' but that doesn't tell us much about why we are communicating. In other words, it's a non-human definition: it's a way of thinking about language without thinking of the humans involved. In fact, the communication model came out of people looking at eg morse code and other industrial or military means of passing messages. But this reduces us to a mechanistic model, as if we are machines.

We are not machines, we have the power of affecting each other and also - complicated - being affected by how the other person is affected by what we just said before!

In other words we are 'reflective'. We 'reflect' through language and we 'reflect' through 'reflex', so we can call that 'reflexive'. When we think of language like that, we have to take in who is doing the talking and writing, who is the audience for that piece of talking and writing and what kind of people these parties ('participants') are. This is the necessary social dimension of language that often gets left out when we just talk of 'words' and 'communication'.

Sunday, 11 May 2025

How picture books help young children's minds to grow

A woman who self-identified as a grandmother stopped me in the street just now when I was shopping, and told me that her granddaughter used to ask her to read a picture book to her, by reading one side out loud and the granddaughter said that she would 'read' the other side. But she couldn't 'read' in the usual sense of the word, but what she would do was 'read' the pictures and tell stories. It was wonderful, the grandmother said, 'Aren't children wonderful?' 

It is precisely this - that the child had invented - which does the 'work' in why and how reading picture books slowly with young children enables them to think. If we ponder for a moment and think of the mental processes going on when the child was doing this: hearing grandmother read the written part of the book, relating that to how the child perceived the pictures, inventing narratives from visual images, synthesising the whole thing so that it was a satisfying, enjoyable, meaningful experience. 

We might guess (without having a transcript in front of us) the child, at times, empathised with the characters, 'harvested' what she knew of the story and 'applied' it to the stories she was making up, using cognitive awareness of things we, as adults, take for granted, eg rain making you wet, wind blowing hats off, things falling down that might be dangerous and a 100 if not a 1000 other aspects of cognition. 

All in that one process of reading slowly with a child, sharing a book, giving space for the child to explore, investigate, invent, talk, think.

Friday, 14 March 2025

The antisemitism inquiry at Goldsmiths University of London: some questions

 I want to list some of the things that are curious about Goldsmiths, University of London's antisemitism inquiry.

1. How was it decided that we needed one?
2. Why was it decided that out of all possible racisms and forms of discrimination to have inquiries about, why was it decided that it was antisemitism that needed an inquiry?
3. Did anyone in management suggest that we needed inquiry or was it someone or some people on the staff who made the suggestion?
4.. Who decided that the way to do it was to have one KC to do the inquiry?
5. Who drew up the terms of reference?
6. Some inquiries publish interim findings and clarifications, why isn't this happening?
7. The inquiry has called on people to come forward and report antisemitism. Fair enough. But if you're Jewish and you haven't experienced antisemitism, how is that being taken into account? Is there a list of Jews who are not complaining of antisemitism?
8. So far, the inquiry hasn't produced a definition of antisemitism, ie the one that they will be using in order to detect the thing they're investigating. Wouldn't this be useful for those of us who are Jewish in order to assess whether what we experience is the kind of antisemitism that the inquiry is investigating?
9. By last May (2024) the inquiry had cost £128,000. Why isn't there any indication what this money is being spent on?
10. Why can't the KC give some kind of indication as to when the inquiry might conclude?
11. It's possible that some people (eg me) have experienced what they deem to be antisemitism coming from a member (or members) of staff but in off-campus situations. Would that be relevant?

Tuesday, 11 February 2025

List of my more radical books

 for young readers:

Dread Cat
This is our House
Send for a Superhero
The Bakerloo Flea and other stories
The Adventures of Gaston le Dog
the three Uncle Gobb books (series)
The Missing
On the Move
Please Write Soon
You're Thinking about Doughnuts
You're Thinking about Tomatoes (two short novels for children exploring the 'material' origins in exploitation and colonialism (!) - second one is now a graphic novel with Cole Henley ;
One Day.
Unexpected Twist (a new take on Oliver Twist, new setting)
The Wicked Tricks of Till Owlyglass
for teens or adults:
Don't Mention the Children,
Pebbles,
Many Different Kinds of Love,
Getting Better
Fighters for Life,
Mr Mensh,
I'm Listening to a Pogrom on the Radio,
The Advantages of Nearly Dying.
Non-fiction:
Shakespeare in his time for our time,
Book of Dissent (with David Widgery),
What is Play?

Non-fiction for younger readers:
What's Special About Shakespeare?
What's Special about Dickens?
The Disappearance of Emile Zola
Books on education:
Good Ideas: How to Be Your Child's (and Your Own) Best Teacher
Did I Hear You Write?
The two Boris Johnson satires:
St Pancreas Defendat Me,
Farce Majeur.
for younger readers (non-fiction):
What is Humanism? (with Annemarie Young),
What is politics? (with Annemarie Young),
What is Art? (with Annemarie Young),
What is Right and Wrong? (with Annemarie Young).
Who are Refugees and Migrants? (with Annemarie Young)
Two collections of historically radical stories for children
'Workers' Tales',
'Reading and Rebellion' (with Kimberley Reynolds and Jane Rosen) - both volumes bringing together radical stories over the last 150 years that haven't been published since - with commentary on sources.
Two collections of William Morris's poetry:
The Pilgrims of Hope
Poems of Protest
Radical take on language:
Rosen's Almanac.
An autobiography/memoir
'So They Call You Pisher!' (also on audio at Audible)
Forthcoming:
Poems on Education (poems from NUT and NEU newspapers)
The King and the Tutor.

Forthcoming book of poems:
Words United.